New earth

PMT 2015-094 by Kenneth L. Gentry, Jr.

Partick W. writes:

“One thing I’m a little confused about is the ultimate end of history. Does man remain on earth when Christ returns? After Christ has put all enemies under his feet and handed over the kingdom to the Father, does heaven and hell “merge” and man remains on earth for a lack of better words while Christ is present physically (assuming also still in some sense everywhere present because he’s God). I’m so confused as I feel like I always hear by and large from Christians is to just go to heaven and it seems many believe the present earth to be destroyed. Or is there something else beyond earth/heaven?”

Ken Gentry responds:

Basically, I believe that when we die now (in history) we go to heaven — as did the disciples, the thief on the cross, and Paul the apostle:

To the thief, Jesus said in Luke 23:43: “Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise.”

To the disciples the Lord promised in John 14:2–3: “In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.” (This “coming” refers to his coming to each of them at their physical deaths, otherwise they would not enter into glory until the end of history.)

Paul stated in Phil 1:21–24: “For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. But if I am to live on in the flesh, this will mean fruitful labor for me; and I do not know which to choose. But I am hard-pressed from both directions, having the desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better; yet to remain on in the flesh is more necessary for your sake.”

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But at the end of history when the Lord returns we will be given our physical, resurrected, final bodies that are incorruptible: “Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality” (1 Cor 15:50-53).

This transformation of our bodies will be on “the last day”: “This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day. (John 6:39). These bodies are designed for a physical realm rather than a spiritual realm. After all, God created angels as spirits: “Are they not all ministering spirits, sent out to render service for the sake of those who will inherit salvation?” (Heb. 1:14). Whereas God created us a physical creatures designed for a physical world: “Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being” (Gen. 2:7).

So on “the last day” God will re-fashion the earth and we will enter the consummate, final new earth: “But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat! But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells” (2 Pet 3:10–13).

Thus, we now enjoy the spiritual preparation for the consummate new creation: we are spiritually new creations in Christ: “Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come” (2 Cor 5:17). And we have been spiritually resurrected: “God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus” (Eph 2:4–6; cp. John 5:25). But then on the last day we will be physically resurrected for the physical new creation.

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This theological perspective is called the “Now / But Not Yet” approach. That is, we now spiritually enjoy — by way of anticipation — the future full, glorious reality to come. Jesus links these two realities for us in John 5:25–29:

“Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself; and He gave Him authority to execute judgment, because He is the Son of Man. Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.”
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13 thoughts on “WHERE DO WE GO AT DEATH?

  1. Richard August 5, 2015 at 9:54 am

    That was excellent. Thank you!

  2. kevin scholes August 5, 2015 at 10:29 am

    thanks kenneth that was really interesting to think that we are getting new bodies on a new earth .Jonathan welton says the burning of the heavens and earth the elements were the elements of judaism and the heavens and earth referred to the temple in Jerusalem so Ad 70 speaks of the destruction of the elements judaism..????? harold eberle has got something to say about this in his new book whch i am looking forward to reading kevin

  3. Kenneth Gentry August 5, 2015 at 10:40 am

    I am familiar with this view. It was argued by John Owen long ago. However, I do not believe that is what Peter is presenting in 2 Pet 3. He seems to be expecting a long period of time, in that he says a day with the Lord is as a 1000 years.

  4. B. Newton August 5, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    The Bible seems to be relatively silent on the matter of the “intermediate state”, which may be defined as the period between our physical deaths in this life and the time of our physical resurrection, as spoken of in 1 Cor. 15:50 ff, John 5:28,29, John 6:39,40; John 11:24, etc. Maybe this is because it is unnatural for humans, who were created for spatial-temporal existence, to be without that spatial identity.

  5. Glenn August 6, 2015 at 7:34 am

    Randy Alcorn’s book, “Heaven,” is a wonderful thorough study of Heaven. Time to dust it off and read it again!

  6. Kenneth Gentry August 6, 2015 at 11:46 am

    It is certainly true that God designed us with physical bodies (while angels are spirit beings designed for the spiritual world). This is one of the background theological arguments for our future physical resurrection.

  7. Caique Matheus Ribeiro Calixto December 11, 2020 at 4:15 pm

    Hi, dr. Kenneth.
    What’s the difference bettwen Hell and Lake of fire?
    Revelation 20:14 says that the “death and Hell ware cast into the lake of fire”. What does it mean? Is there any difference bettwen Hell and lake of fire?
    How culd the beast and false prophet be cast “alive” into a Lake of fire?

  8. Kenneth Gentry December 11, 2020 at 4:51 pm

    This is apocalpytic imagery. It is basically showing the intensified judgment by God at the final day. When men die now, they go in their spirit to hell. But on Judgment Day at the end of history, they will be given their resurrection to endure God’s wrath in soul AND body forever.

  9. Josh Wagar May 1, 2022 at 6:50 pm

    Brother Gentry,

    Would it be possible (or is there an article already in existence) for you to expound more on John 14:1-3? Since I grew up a dispensationalist it is very hard for me to view this passage outside of that mindset no matter how hard I try. Would you be able to direct me?

    For instance, why is it or how is it that you teach that his “coming to them” was a reference to His coming to them in their deaths? I’m unaware of that being a common way of speaking of death in Scripture. Though not speaking of a rapture, could this be a reference to the Second Coming when Heaven and Earth merge? I’m grateful for any insight or direction you may be able to point me in. Thank you.

  10. Kenneth Gentry May 12, 2022 at 3:06 pm

    I will try to get to this before too long. I picked up the interpretation from J. Barton Payne in his Encyclopedia of Bible Prophecy.

  11. Joshua Haymes April 11, 2023 at 8:17 am

    Hi Dr. Gentry.

    You’re teaching and lectures have been a tremendous resource in my journey to eschatological optimism. I would like to second that last question by Josh Wager. I still have a couple of problem passages in my eschatology, and this is one of them. If Christ is going to the Father to prepare a place for his disciples, it would make sense for that to be referring to the intermediate state, however, I struggle with the interpretation that this is referring to Christ receiving each of us at our deaths simply because I’m not familiar with the Bible ever (anywhere else) insinuating that Christ will “come” to receive us. If you have any resources or scriptures that might help me reconcile this view with my optimistic eschatology I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks for all you do brother!

  12. Kenneth Gentry April 11, 2023 at 10:53 am

    Thanks for writing. Of course, the “coming” of Christ at every individual’s death is imagery. He can sit at God’s right hand and spiritually escort us into heaven — without having to leave the throne 100s of 1000s of times per day as his saints die. However, this blessed image is not just found in John 14. See also: Acts 7:59.

  13. Joshua Haymes April 20, 2023 at 7:47 am

    Thank you Dr. Gentry. That helps a lot. You’ve blessed me immensely through your work. Thank you.

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